Comments on: Personal reflections on the therapeutic process: Learning from termination. http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/2009/05/personal-reflections-on-the-therapeutic-process-learning-from-termination/ media & film, design, philosophy, politics Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:06:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: changesgood http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/2009/05/personal-reflections-on-the-therapeutic-process-learning-from-termination/comment-page-1/#comment-200 changesgood Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:21:48 +0000 http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/?p=1755#comment-200 i'm currently being terminated by my therapist of 7 years. it is her decision not mine. she has had a change in her job. however she will still be at the same office. i've been reffered to a new therapist.i'm very attached to this therapist and find it quite painful.i wonder if this is normal i'm currently being terminated by my therapist of 7 years. it is her decision not mine. she has had a change in her job. however she will still be at the same office. i've been reffered to a new therapist.i'm very attached to this therapist and find it quite painful.i wonder if this is normal

]]> By: David Hahn http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/2009/05/personal-reflections-on-the-therapeutic-process-learning-from-termination/comment-page-1/#comment-162 David Hahn Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:45:51 +0000 http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/?p=1755#comment-162 Agreed: I claimed simply that "theory," with all its faults, is necessary whether we like it or not for the psychologist to do his job. "Theory "alone will not tell us how to talk to or deal with a "real person," and my comments above were not suggesting that they somehow would. Agreed: I claimed simply that “theory,” with all its faults, is necessary whether we like it or not for the psychologist to do his job. “Theory “alone will not tell us how to talk to or deal with a “real person,” and my comments above were not suggesting that they somehow would.

]]> By: Louise52 http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/2009/05/personal-reflections-on-the-therapeutic-process-learning-from-termination/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Louise52 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:27:35 +0000 http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/?p=1755#comment-161 The comments above do not reflect the perspective of the client in any real way. As someone currently terminating an 18 yr therapy relationship. Of course, the most meaningful, genuine connections occur within the therapeutic relationship. "Theory" is an abstract guide for the clinician, but it doesn't matter a whit if the purveyor of the information is an overly formal person entrenched in jargon and theory - with no idea how to talk to a real person! and i've been on both sides of the room. The comments above do not reflect the perspective of the client in any real way. As someone currently terminating an 18 yr therapy relationship. Of course, the most meaningful, genuine connections occur within the therapeutic relationship. “Theory” is an abstract guide for the clinician, but it doesn't matter a whit if the purveyor of the information is an overly formal person entrenched in jargon and theory - with no idea how to talk to a real person! and i've been on both sides of the room.

]]> By: David Hahn http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/2009/05/personal-reflections-on-the-therapeutic-process-learning-from-termination/comment-page-1/#comment-157 David Hahn Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:03:03 +0000 http://www.mutuallyoccluded.com/?p=1755#comment-157 I wonder whether the problem is to be understood not just in terms of theory/practice, but internal/external views of a situation. There's at least three viewpoints here: (a) the therapist in the room (b) the patient in the room and (c) the interpreter of the situation between (a) and (b) alone at one's desk after the session has ended. As Philip Rosenbaum, you happen to be both (a) and (c), which obviously complicates matters. How can we believe (c) is getting the situation right, or helping the patient at all, when we know (c) is the same person as (a), namely, Philip Rosenbaum? "Theory"--or whatever we call the thing that gives a working account of what you're doing--provides one way for us to at least check up on (c). What kind of account of what he's doing does (c) have of what (a)'s doing? Is it coherent? What does it value? How does it work exactly? "Theory" or working principles also give (a) some rough account of what he's doing--compromised and limited, yes--but a rough account nonetheless that seems necessary to start any work at all. Think about what it would be like if (c) didn't exist? It's nearly impossible, when you really start to press at it.<br><br>Theory/working principles aren't great, but we're stuck with 'em. I wonder whether the problem is to be understood not just in terms of theory/practice, but internal/external views of a situation. There's at least three viewpoints here: (a) the therapist in the room (b) the patient in the room and (c) the interpreter of the situation between (a) and (b) alone at one's desk after the session has ended. As Philip Rosenbaum, you happen to be both (a) and (c), which obviously complicates matters. How can we believe (c) is getting the situation right, or helping the patient at all, when we know (c) is the same person as (a), namely, Philip Rosenbaum? “Theory”–or whatever we call the thing that gives a working account of what you're doing–provides one way for us to at least check up on (c). What kind of account of what he's doing does (c) have of what (a)'s doing? Is it coherent? What does it value? How does it work exactly? “Theory” or working principles also give (a) some rough account of what he's doing–compromised and limited, yes–but a rough account nonetheless that seems necessary to start any work at all. Think about what it would be like if (c) didn't exist? It's nearly impossible, when you really start to press at it.

Theory/working principles aren't great, but we're stuck with 'em.

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